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system — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:17:24 GMT

Re: Smartphone Carnage Far From Over

JenST — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:12:16 GMT

What do you think about open platform by the carrier? See BT purchased Ribbit. This could be the first move of the carriers to take control from Google, Microsoft, Apple. http://gigaom.com/2008/07/29/bt-buys-ribbit/

Re: Smartphone Carnage Far From Over

allenjs — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:57:58 GMT

mamadero: that is good feedback. I was focusing in this post more on the business model and strategy, but it is true that developer platform is an important part of the strategy. As I mentioned, carriers get nervous when there are lots of unvalidated 3rd-party apps running on the phones and potentially causing support calls. In part because of this, I think mobile web as platform has a bright future. And Silverlight sits sort of in the middle here -- you will see a lot more about Silverlight on mobile in the future.

Re: Smartphone Carnage Far From Over

mamadero — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:40:05 GMT

Hi Joshua,

I dont think Microsoft's vision towards the Mobile market is what shoud be... for most of the other player's you mentioned (Excepto googles) it's their main focus. I know MS is as big than can be a big player in a lot of different areas (OS, Office Applications, Gaming Consoles, etc), but I dont feel MS is really doing a great effort in the mobility arena, specially with smartphones, even google with Android's seems like a more active player.

MS efforts seems really passive, they release an OS every so often and the .NET CF releases, power toys, service packs, dev tools, etc doesn't seem to keep up with their desktop counterparts (we have a lot of innovation with Silverlight, Services, ASP.NET, WPF, etc) or other SDKs (apple, rimm, android).

The developer community around Windows Mobile its also very passive, as an example look at the projects in codeplex or opennetcf. I don't know how are other Mobile devs communities....

This is just my impression, What do you think?

Re: Smartphone Carnage Far From Over

allenjs — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:53:31 GMT

Hi Sta,

Thanks for the comment! There are two reasons. First, as I mentioned, Facebook is really popular on iPhone already, as is MySpace. And Facebook works on Windows Mobile and BlackBerry. There is no sign that Apple is serious about trying to compete with Facebook and MySpace to make social network a primary feature across multiple devices from competitors, and it will be a massive uphill battle if they do.

Second, the article I cited was speculating about widget vendors and ad networks. I do not think that it is realistic to expect Apple to form a competitive ad platform for people using the SDK. Apple has chosen a transactional business model for the store, not an ad-funded model. The most popular apps (Facebook, MySpace, search) are already monetized through ad revenues from Google or Microsoft's ad networks. Since other monetize ads better than Apple can, any play to exclude people from using Google or MSFT ad newtwork would likely mean that Apple loses key applications. I think they would rather take their 30% up-front.

Re: Smartphone Carnage Far From Over

StaHamza — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:34:40 GMT

You never answer. Why is iPhone not will take over Facebook and MySpace? Why iPhone not become best social network?